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CCHIT and FOSS Meeting at HIMSS

Posted on April 8, 2009 I Written By

John Lynn is the Founder of the HealthcareScene.com blog network which currently consists of 10 blogs containing over 8000 articles with John having written over 4000 of the articles himself. These EMR and Healthcare IT related articles have been viewed over 16 million times. John also manages Healthcare IT Central and Healthcare IT Today, the leading career Health IT job board and blog. John is co-founder of InfluentialNetworks.com and Physia.com. John is highly involved in social media, and in addition to his blogs can also be found on Twitter: @techguy and @ehrandhit and LinkedIn.

Source: http://twitpic.com/2xe18

Source: http://twitpic.com/2xe18

The meeting between CCHIT and FOSS at HIMSS was really interesting. I have a lot more to post about it, but I thought I’d start with a quick picture (see above thanks to Twitpic) and my real time thoughts on the presentation that I posted to my Twitter account.

Listening to the CCHIT webinar, it really seems like CCHIT has overworked their EHR certification.

Facts about CCHIT by Mark Leavitt. This should be interesting.

Mission of CCHIT “Accelerate adoption of HIT” not “Accelerate adoption of proprietary HIT” -Mark Leavitt Uh huh

I’d like to know which self developed open source EHR is CCHIT certified.

CCHIT Session: Licensing costs of the datasets are a challenge for open source EHR. Problem since CCHIT requires them.

Town halls,reports, online discussion as the means of CCHIT communication. There missing so many ways to get feedback from people

Even though it’s a certified EHR system, can’t guarantee a successful implementation -Mark Leavitt

CCHIT’s goal is to help small practices that don’t have time to research EHR. Where’s the data that CCHIT actually is achieving this goal?

@dschach Agreed. That’s why CCHIT shouldn’t make claims/goals to improve adoption/success since certification doesn’t help and may hinder

Fred Trotter’s list of reasons CCHIT and FOSS don’t match is great. Definitely doing a post with some of the ideas. [Definitely a future post on this blog]

It’s obvious that there are a lot more issues with CCHIT that need discussion than just open source

CCHIT has plans to measure the success of certified EHR in implementation. Will expose numbers to users, but not require a success rate for certification

“CCHIT wants to think about certifying versions. It’s backwards for FOSS EHR. So they have to think about it.” It took 3 years to think about this?

@oneofthefreds I wouldn’t call it nonsense. Mark sounds sincere, but just uninformed.

CCHIT should really use uStream for these town hall meetings rather than the GoToWebinar. Much better user experience

CCHIT and FOSS meeting’s gone way over, but I’m glad they did. Plus, we only covered a small share of CCHIT discussion

“We think CCHIT certification being the certified EHR is likely, but we don’t know.” -Mark Leavitt

Summary of CCHIT and FOSS Meeting: Lots of unanswered questions about CCHIT. FOSS just complicates it even more

I also think that tonymaro (Twitter username) offered some good insights on the event:

tonymaro: The more he[Mark Leavitt] talks the more it beomes available that CCHIT isn’t evil regarding OSS, they just don’t get it!

tonymaro: I’m afraid the obvious disappointment by the OSS community has simply caused CCHIT to turn defensive

As a side note, the first CCHIT meeting at HIMSS was a big disappointment. It was described as a CCHIT roadmap and ended up being a Laika project demo and roadmap (kind of). I’m not trying to discredit Laika since I don’t know too much about their work. I’m just saying that the expectation of CCHIT roadmap wasn’t met for me.

The CCHIT and FOSS meeting was a little scattered, but a good start to the conversation. I look forward to seeing how the discussion continues. Much more to come on what was talked about at this meeting.

CCHIT and Open Source (FOSS) Meet at HIMSS

Posted on April 1, 2009 I Written By

John Lynn is the Founder of the HealthcareScene.com blog network which currently consists of 10 blogs containing over 8000 articles with John having written over 4000 of the articles himself. These EMR and Healthcare IT related articles have been viewed over 16 million times. John also manages Healthcare IT Central and Healthcare IT Today, the leading career Health IT job board and blog. John is co-founder of InfluentialNetworks.com and Physia.com. John is highly involved in social media, and in addition to his blogs can also be found on Twitter: @techguy and @ehrandhit and LinkedIn.

I’d been meaning to post this for a while, because I hope that it will be well attended. CCHIT and various open source EMR groups, advocates and friends will be meeting with CCHIT during HIMSS. I first read about this from Neil Versel where he said this:

Healthcare FOSS guru Fred Trotter and Linux Medical News editor Ignacio Valdes, M.D., are leading the event, Monday, April 6, at 2 p.m. in Room 10d at the Hyatt Regency McCormick Place at 22nd Street and South King Drive in Chicago. Trotter called the encounter “like offering to meet with the Rebel Alliance at the annual Death Star conference,”, but I imagine they intend for things to be civil.

I love the Death Star reference. This should be a pretty interesting meeting. I was talking to someone today who suggested that they were going to come to some sort of consensus at that meeting. I suggested that they probably wouldn’t come to a consensus, but at most agree to disagree. However, I’m a strong advocate for communication and understanding between parties. So this is a good thing.

The best part for those who can’t attend HIMSS is that they’re planning on doing a webcast of the event. Here’s the details:

Date: Monday, April 6, 2009

Room 10d, Hyatt McCormick Conference Center, Chicago

Session #1 1:00 – 2:00 PM CDT

Interoperability 09 and Beyond: a look at CCHIT’s roadmap for the future

Session #2 2:00 – 3:00 PM CDT

Open Source Forum: a dialogue on certification for open source EHRs

Here is the link to register for the webinar:

https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/429901059

After registering you will receive a confirmation email containing
information about joining the webinar. We will also be recording
these sessions, and plan to make the media files available on the web
for later downloads.

There’s actually 2 sessions and I’m really interested to see how it goes. I wish I could be present, but I’ll definitely be at the webinar and posting my thoughts on twitter. I do wish that CCHIT would add a ustream video feed of it as well.

Free and Open Source in Healthcare Un Conference

Posted on January 30, 2009 I Written By

John Lynn is the Founder of the HealthcareScene.com blog network which currently consists of 10 blogs containing over 8000 articles with John having written over 4000 of the articles himself. These EMR and Healthcare IT related articles have been viewed over 16 million times. John also manages Healthcare IT Central and Healthcare IT Today, the leading career Health IT job board and blog. John is co-founder of InfluentialNetworks.com and Physia.com. John is highly involved in social media, and in addition to his blogs can also be found on Twitter: @techguy and @ehrandhit and LinkedIn.

I was reading the Healthcare IT guy’s blog and saw a post about a Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) Healthcare IT conference going on in Houston July 31, 2009 – August 2, 2009. According to Shahid, one of the most outspoken proponents of FOSS in Healthcare, Fred Trotter, is one of the people behind the unconference.

I’m not sure why they chose Houston for this conference. I think Las Vegas would have been a much better choice, but yes I am completely biased because I live in Las Vegas. All of that said, I love what Fred Trotter is trying to do and so I’m excited to promote those who are pushing for free emr and open source emr (see also our Open Source and Free EMR list on our wiki).

You can go and register for the event at the incredibly reasonable rate of $60 if you do it before March 1.

My hope is that Fred also embraces some great streaming video technology such as UStream and makes the conference proceedings available to those of us that can’t make it to Houston. I know I’d tune in and I’d even be willing to embed the UStream video on this blog for others to attend as well. Only challenge might be the fact that it’s an unconference. Not sure the format they’ll be using and if that will translate well to video.